| AInfokssnoft | Дата: Понедельник, 27.05.2013, 03:37 | Сообщение # 1 |
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Suboxone has an incredibly long half life (well illustrated in), and thus builds up in a person's system over time. if a person has been on a suboxone regimen for period of time, the drug will remain in said person's system for weeks or a month (perhaps longer, in some cases), depending upon the person's duration of use and daily dosage--as well as other miscellaneous factors, such as the person's metabolism. you have not mentioned your suboxone use with any specificity, so i'm obviously unsure of your unique situation--knowing the daily dosage (mg) which your were prescribed or otherwise used, as well as the length of time you consistently took the drug, would be very helpful in answering your question with more accuracy. also, did you choose to taper off your suboxone, or did you cease taking it a moderate to large dose (4mg+)? personally, i believe that you ingested the naltrexone too early after you ceased taking suboxone. i'm on daily suboxone maintenance therapy, and i take 2mg every morning, however, sometimes (specifically, no more than once a month) i like to have some fun and use a full opiod agonist. when i know i'm expecting to partake in recreational opiates, i stop taking my suboxone for a length of time--i've experimented with the exact length of break time which yields both the fullest opiated experience and prevents the worst withdrawal symptoms from becoming unbearable, and i've come to the conclusion that five days to a week is the minimum amount of time to refrain from taking suboxone so that i can enjoy heroin or other opiates. however, i recommend waiting even longer; after one and a half to two weeks have elapsed, the suboxone remaining on your receptors should be in the very low milligram to micro-gram range. note that suboxone is still active in the microgram range, but that thus far it has proved unobtrusive towards the full opiate experience i desire to have on occasion. these same principles which i apply when planning my mini-drug-holidays can also apply to your situation--the longer you wait before taking an opiate or, in your case, naltrexone, the better the experience will be and the fewer undesired results will occur (such as your worsening withdrawal). i also think that perhaps the hard-wired association between naltrexone and the onset of instant, gut-wrenching withdrawal is causing a psychosomatic reaction mimicking true full withdrawal, because, as you mentioned above, 5mg is a low-ish dose with a low oral bio-availability to boot--this explanation could easily be overreaching and untrue, though. when i first began my suboxone regimen, i had many misconceptions about the drug and its use(s). it was counter-intuitive for me to adopt a "less is more" mentality, when i always sought pills of higher and higher mg content to continue chasing my ideal high. even after i learned that taking 2mg served me much better than the daily 20mg i was prescribed by a doctor who was as ignorant about suboxone as i was in the beginning, i didn't realize just how much of the drug built up in my system over time. suboxone withdrawal is the worst i've ever suffered, so i feel sooo bad for you after reading this--it pains me and gives me chills simply looking back on my experience getting off subs (i couldn't do it in the end, and started taking them again). i wanted to wish you good luck with your naltrexone therapy. i always think that taking my suboxone every day is much better than the alternative option of going through withdrawal and that if i can postpone that hell forever with a small daily dose, i think i definitely will; however, it would be nice to not be a slave to any drug, even if this one is doctor prescribed, cheaper, and much easier to obtain--there's great freedom in the idea that you no longer need a pill to make it through the day. once again good luck, and please, if you don't mind, keep us posted on the results/details of your naltrexone therapy--i've never heard the experience(s) of a person who chose this route of detox/rehabilitation, and i'd be interested in learning more about it from your experience.
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Congratulations on your first week, iclt! that's a pretty big step. i've been following your progress, and i'm frankly impressed with what an orderly recovery you've got going. my first week was such a mess.
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Yeah - that's why when you get vivitrol shots, the doctors won't do it if you've done bupe or methadone within 10 days of getting the shot.
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